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gregskey

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I'm wondering how long it should take Active Copy to move a file recently added to a folder on a laptop to a folder on a pogoplug drive. When I move a file into the source folder on the laptop it should be copied to the destination drive on the pogoplug but it does not. Am I assuming this is the way Active Copy should work?

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August 29, 2011 9:49 PM

I have found that Active Copy does not "automatically" update the files on the destination drive. I find myself disabling and then re-enabling the Active Copy functionality in order to get it to update. Not real responsive, and it certainly doesn't work as advertised.

August 31, 2011 1:09 AM

Thanks for the reply Guineaman. I find your observation of Active Copy correct. Actually most features of the dockstar (i.e accessing the attached drives) are at times not real responsive and don't work as advertised. I've been communicating with Pogoplug and Seagate technical support trying to remedy these problems. At the moment I'm having problems with the utility Seagate Manager not finding the drives connected to the dockstar. The utility used to work, but no longer and I have no clue why.

August 31, 2011 7:37 AM

I guess the best way to look at it is that Pogoplug was a fairly cheap product to purchase. You get what you pay for. But it had so much promise; it's sad that it falls so short.

August 31, 2011 1:30 PM

Hi gregskey and Guineaman,

Have you reported these Active Copy issues to Pogoplug support? I'm going to pass this thread on to them so they can take a look and possibly contact you individually to resolve the issues. I had pretty good experiences with Active Copy automatically copying files, so there could be a gremlin messing things up in your configuration :)

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August 31, 2011 1:40 PM

Peter Redmer said: Hi gregskey and Guineaman, Have you reported these Active Copy issues to Pogoplug support? I'm going to pass this thread on to them so they can take a look and possibly contact you individually to resolve the issues. I had pretty good experiences with Active Copy automatically copying files, so there could be a gremlin messing things up in your configuration :)

I've reported my Active Copy problems to tech supports at least five times.  They are responsive, but unresponsive.  By that I mean that they get back to me, but they don't EVER solve the problem.

I have also snail mailed the CTO of Cloud Engines (Brad Dietrich) explaining my problems in great detail, but he did not deign to respond.

I feel I have every right to voice my dissatisfaction with the PogoPlug product and business model at every opportunity since the makers of the product aren't able to address the problems I've had since day #1.

August 31, 2011 1:52 PM

Hi Peter,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have contacted both Pogoplug Support (very timely responses to my questions/issues) and Seagate support (not so timely responses to my questions/issues). To date I have not resolved the issues of how long it takes to access the drives attached to the dockstar, or, how long it takes to do an Active Copy. Sometimes access times to the disks via the web browser are very fast and other times it takes literally minutes. Same with Active Copy, sometimes very fast, other times less so. My latest problem involves remote scheduled backup using the utility Seagate Manager. I've just posted on the forum 'Pogoplug enabled devices' with the title 'New Pogoplug software verses Dockstar/Seagate Manager'. It details a recent email exchange with Seagate Technical Support. I think you might find it interesting. Please let me know what you think. Thanks, Greg

August 31, 2011 2:04 PM

Hi Guineaman,
I just responded to Peter's reply post and indicated that I posted another thread regarding these and other problems. I'm interested in what you think of this latest post. I'm hoping that I can get a resolution to these problem(s) but based on some of the postings I don't have high hopes. Thanks, Greg

September 6, 2011 1:38 PM

Hi all,

This is Christopher, head of Customer Outreach here at Cloud Engines.

While I can't speak to the specific symptoms you are seeing with Active Copy, let me take this opportunity to describe how it currently works:

1) Pogoplug device to Pogoplug device or PC with Pogoplug Software installed: AC detects a difference in file name, file size or timestamp for a file, waits 60 seconds for the containing folder to be untouched, then proceeds with the copy.

2) PC to Pogoplug: AC runs every 24 hours, checking the same parameters described above. The 24 hour cycle starts from the time you login to Pogoplug Software on your PC, or from the time you add or Enable a new backup.

Kind Regards,
Christopher

September 6, 2011 1:50 PM

Chris Louie said: Hi all, This is Christopher, head of Customer Outreach here at Cloud Engines. While I can't speak to the specific symptoms you are seeing with Active Copy, let me take this opportunity to describe how it currently works: 1) Pogoplug device to Pogoplug device or PC with Pogoplug Software installed: AC detects a difference in file name, file size or timestamp for a file, waits 60 seconds for the containing folder to be untouched, then proceeds with the copy. 2) PC to Pogoplug: AC runs every 24 hours, checking the same parameters described above. The 24 hour cycle starts from the time you login to Pogoplug Software on your PC, or from the time you add or Enable a new backup. Kind Regards, Christopher

Chris --

Thanks for comment.

How about pink pogoplug with AC set to synch Drive A to Drive B (both USB external drives)?   AC sure doesn't keep Drive B synched with Drive A without user intervention.  Maybe it should, but it doesn't.  You'll see a whole series of support tickets over the past year from me on this issue.

September 6, 2011 4:19 PM

Hi Guineaman,

I should further clarify something. New files and changed files are copied to your destination using Active Copy; this is a one way sync and NOT a mirrored two-way sync. We did this by design so that you can safely delete files on your AC source and still find them on your AC destination. I also can't speak for Seagate Manager.

While I didn't review your Support tickets, because of the recent updates to Pogoplug software, if your AC job's don't seem to be working in the manner described, please 'Submit a support ticket' using 'Help Center'. Any symptoms you may have experienced during the course of the last year may have nothing to do with what's occurring for you now.

KR
Christopher

September 6, 2011 4:57 PM

Thanks Chris--

I understand that AC is one way. That is the way I want to use it: copying contents of external DriveA to external DriveB, both plugged into Pogoplug.

Once a month, I connect an external DriveC to the Pogoplug's third port and use active copy to copy the contents of DriveB to DriveC. Then DriveC goes into the bank box.

My problem has been that I'll copy a bunch of files to DriveA on a Tuesday night and then when I look at DRIVEB on Wednesday, the updated files haven't been copied over to DriveB. I have to disable the active copy function in the Pogoplug to Pogoplug Active Copy (on the Settings/Backup screen), wait a while, and then re-enable the active copy. Then, and only then, do I see the pending message and then see the active copy start to take place.

Make sense?

September 6, 2011 5:02 PM

I think there should be an option to mirror the drives rather work one way. There are many times when I change a file name or add it to another folder, which in turn gives me a duplicate of the same file, either with a different name or in another location.

September 6, 2011 5:14 PM

Guineaman said: Thanks Chris-- I understand that AC is one way. That is the way I want to use it: copying contents of external DriveA to external DriveB, both plugged into Pogoplug. Once a month, I connect an external DriveC to the Pogoplug's third port and use active copy to copy the contents of DriveB to DriveC. Then DriveC goes into the bank box. My problem has been that I'll copy a bunch of files to DriveA on a Tuesday night and then when I look at DRIVEB on Wednesday, the updated files haven't been copied over to DriveB. I have to disable the active copy function in the Pogoplug to Pogoplug Active Copy (on the Settings/Backup screen), wait a while, and then re-enable the active copy. Then, and only then, do I see the pending message and then see the active copy start to take place. Make sense?

Well, this doesn't sound quite right. Support is still the best place to work out this issue though this will likely require more time to resolve this. If you haven't already, you'll need to submit logs directly from your Pogoplug within the first 24 hours or noticing this problem. Logs are purged on a daily basis or upon reboot. I apologize if you've already done this.

Christopher

September 6, 2011 5:16 PM

Rock said: I think there should be an option to mirror the drives rather work one way. There are many times when I change a file name or add it to another folder, which in turn gives me a duplicate of the same file, either with a different name or in another location.

Two way sync is on our long term roadmap though we don't have a confirmed time line for this update. Nonethelless, we'll pass your feedback onto the Product Team.

KR

Christopher

September 13, 2011 10:59 AM

I recently purchased the Pogoplug Pro, and am seeing the same behavior as Guineaman. I have 2 external drives attached to the Pogoplug, and am trying to ActiveCopy from Drive1 to Drive2. With empty directories, newly copied files synced ok from Drive1 to Drive2, and the initial sync of 120GB of data synced as well. The day after the full sync, I tried creating a new file in the sync source directory via the drive letter mapped with Pogoplug software to Drive1. This did not sync. Modified files in the same directory, however did sync. I've waited 3 hours, and still the new file hasn't copied over.

September 13, 2011 11:14 AM

Clearly a problem that Pogoplug seems unable to resolve. My view is that the Active Copy feature is now and always has been misrepresented by Cloud Engines. I've had problems with Acctive Copy for more than a year, with no resolution from tech support. I paid $99 for my Pogoplug, and I got gypped.

Looking for another 'low-tech' network attached storage device that works as advertised.

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