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LeeH

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The transcoding operation on the Pogoplug is extremely slow. Is there a format that can be used to pre-format a video such that it can be streamed directly, but doesn't need to be transcoded?

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January 19, 2011 4:15 PM updated: January 19, 2011 4:16 PM

Absolutely!

1. Disable video optimizing on the Pogoplug, so the Pogoplug won't try to do it anymore.

2. Transcode them yourself before uploading to the Pogoplug.

Use 3rd party app HandBrake and set it for mp4 or m4v, and be sure to enable Web-Optimize or Web-friendly. It'll stream without the Pogoplug doing it and it'll even be better quality(since you control the quality).

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

January 19, 2011 4:33 PM

Any bitrate? Any video codec, or does it have to be AVC?

January 19, 2011 4:45 PM

The only limitation is what Adobe's Flashplayer will be able to playback.

When using Handbrake; setting it to mp4/m4v with web-optimize enabled... everything else will be auto-set for you.

From there, you can try tweaking the settings to see what works at what doesn't.
We know the default settings of Handbrake are usually fine.

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

January 23, 2011 9:22 AM updated: January 23, 2011 10:10 AM

I turned off transcoding, but now none of the files that previously streamed (transcoded using Handbrake) actually stream. Is this the typical behavior?

I turned "Generate preview" back on, and now some of the videos are streaming again. There's one that was processed using Handbrake (with web optimization turned on) that does not stream. How do I debug?

January 23, 2011 1:52 PM

Hello,

If Handbrake is used properly, the videos will stream. Please post a screenshot of your HandBrake settings. Also, is this the WebUI that you're using to view the videos, or is this a Playstation3 or XBOX360?

Thanks,

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

January 23, 2011 2:35 PM

I'm using the webUI. Here's a screenshot. 

I used the same settings to convert all my files. 2 work, 1 doesn't.

Handbrake settings

January 23, 2011 2:41 PM

Hmm...

Is this the WebUI, Playstation3 or Xbox360 you're trying to stream to?

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

January 23, 2011 7:07 PM updated: January 23, 2011 7:08 PM

Streaming to the webUI.

I converted the file and downloaded twice. Same result. Again, the other 2 files are fine.

You're welcome to download the file and do what you want with it to help you debug.

January 23, 2011 9:18 PM updated: January 23, 2011 9:21 PM

Yes, I'd like to take a look at one of these videos.
Thank you.

I am positive that a Web-optimized mp4/m4v video streams in the most recent version of Adobe's Flash Player and in Google Chrome's HTML5 player. There must be something else going on here. Maybe HandBrake can't process your videos correctly for some reason. Also note that if a video is really big, or there's a slow internet connection, it might take awhile to buffer enough for the flashplayer to begin playback.

Please make a support ticket at support.pogoplug.com and mention this thread; and give them a publicURL share. I will be notified when the ticket is created.

Thanks,

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

January 24, 2011 4:56 PM

Got the ticket.

Okay, I think I see what the problem is:
1. This file is large(592MB) so the start of stream might be awhile.
2. There is about 3 seconds of darkness before any content starts.
3. You seem to be getting the 10sec preview. Please go to Settings->MediaSettings and disable Video Optimize. Then logout and log back in.

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

January 24, 2011 8:38 PM updated: January 24, 2011 8:45 PM

I've put in a support ticket.

I took your advice and disabled the video optimization. This makes things worse. Now I cannot stream any of the videos, not just the one.

Then I turned the preview generation back on. Now I see previews of all my videos, but I can't stream any of them.

January 24, 2011 8:53 PM

@LeeH

Actually, this tells me exactly what's going on.
Do the step number 3 I mentioned.

3. You seem to be getting the 10sec preview. Please go to Settings->MediaSettings and disable Video Optimize. Then logout and log back in.


Your video streams fine for me without any additional transcoding.

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

January 25, 2011 3:04 AM updated: January 25, 2011 3:05 AM

Hello,

I pulled these instructions from a thread addressing an issue with streaming to a PS3. This worked for me. I know you are not trying to stream to a PS3, but I don't see how following these instructions could really hurt... here it goes:

Indeed,

There is currently a bug that once you've allowed the Pogoplug to create previews for vidoes, that is the only thing you'll see on PS3 & Xbox. You must delete the preview data. If you're sure the videos on your drive are already in a format the PS3 will take, do the following -

- WebUI->Settings->MediaSettings : Disable Video Optimize.
- Safely eject drive from Pogoplug using the eject option in the WebUI
- Connect to PC
- At the root of the drive, remove ".cedata" folder. This folder is hidden so you'll have to know how to find hidden files. DO NOT delete ".ceid".
- Safely eject drive from your PC
- Reconnect to Pogoplug.
- WebUI->Settings->MediaSettings : If you see a "Scanning media" task, wait for it to finish.

Try streaming to your PS3 again.

NOTE: You can transcode videos on your own by using a 3rd party tool called HandBrake. Be sure to use web-optimized(which makes it stream-friendly) and MP4 format.

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^


The main thing here IMO is to delete the .cedata folder. After I deleted this folder, everything worked fine (at least with the steaming to PS3 problem). Hopefully this solution works...

And PS: I was having the 10 second preview problem as well.

January 25, 2011 8:37 AM updated: January 25, 2011 8:41 AM

JB57 - Thanks, I'll give it a try.

It would be nice if the UI had a "purge previews" option. I've put this idea in the Suggestions forum.

February 11, 2011 10:33 PM

I shut off the preview option and deleted the .cedata folder. Pogoplug recreated the thumbnails for the pictures, and did not create video previews.

I am still unable to stream any videos.

March 19, 2012 5:13 PM

I've had nothing but issues trying to stream media from my Pogoplug too. I've tried all the tweeks and use HandBrake setup just like the others and it never works outside of my LAN. I have videos uploaded to it that I took with my iPhone that stream just fine through the 4G connection of my phone but none of the movies I've put on my pogoplug drive work at all.

March 19, 2012 10:26 PM

Same here, JohnJay - I was never able to stream video from my pogoplug over the internet. I tried everything I read on these forums, and experimented quite a bit with Handbrake, all to no avail. Ultimately I abandoned the pogoplug since I could never get it to do what I bought it for, but I'd like to hear if anyone has a proven, working solution.

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