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mnaqvi1

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I wanted to buy a pogoplug and I have  Western Digital 500GB external that works off USB power so when its connected to the device it stays on. I want to have constant access to my files where ever I am.  Won't the fact that the external is constantly connected and the HDD disks spinning severely lower its lifetime?

If that is the case is there a different time of HDD you would recommend or a way to circumvent this if it does prove to be a problem?

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August 13, 2010 12:10 PM updated: August 13, 2010 10:04 PM

I have a Western Digital Elements 640 GB USB 2.0 Portable External Hard Drive connected to my PP 24/7. Although it remains powered (and accessible) the entire time, it only spins up when being accessed. (Same for my Samsung S2 drive).
The PP will spin down the drives when they are not being used. Although, if you look around in these forums, you will find people complaining about drives never spinning down. It is usually in reference to a particular brand etc.
As I said, my WD does spin down -- and others have reported this as well.

August 31, 2010 6:31 AM

What is the time delay setting before the HD spins down appox.? My own MYBOOK seems to run a long time. Is this spin down setting adjustable?

August 31, 2010 8:06 AM

I have never sat by it and truly timed it -- but I am pretty sure that with no activity it is usually spun down by 5 minutes. You cannot (without logging in via ssh and doing some real linux hacking) change the settings on the PP. I doubt that you can on the HD either.

October 10, 2010 7:21 PM

The spindown issue is months and months old. The Pogoplug people have been ignoring it (search the forums, you'll see). Some people have drives that spin down automatically, but most of us don't.

I bought this thing because it's low cost, but I'm really wishing I'd have spent the extra on a NAS, since the cost of new HDDs and the stress over whether this thing is going to kill my drive and all my photos is way more than this thing is worth.

October 10, 2010 9:11 PM updated: October 10, 2010 9:12 PM

slacker said: The spindown issue is months and months old. The Pogoplug people have been ignoring it (search the forums, you'll see). Some people have drives that spin down automatically, but most of us don't. I bought this thing because it's low cost, but I'm really wishing I'd have spent the extra on a NAS, since the cost of new HDDs and the stress over whether this thing is going to kill my drive and all my photos is way more than this thing is worth.

Apparently you haven't been reading all of the comments or know to much about hard drives and external enclosures. Yes it is possible to change the spin down time and some other settings if your not affraid to alter the firmware of a hard drive. However once you connect that hard drive to enclosure, the enclosure's chipset becomes the interface between the pogo and the hard drive. Even if the pogo could tell the enclosure chipset to spin down its impossible to know if all the different manufacturers products have the capability to "listen" and pass that request on to the hard drive. As you said this topic has been beaten to death...at least read all of it before you regurgitate something so ignorant such as saying "...Pogoplug people have been ignoring it...".

October 10, 2010 9:47 PM

You're right about one thing: I don't know about hard drives or external enclosures. I am definitely afraid of altering the firmware on my HDD.

I am an average pogoplug user; pogoplug is a "consumer product," and it's me, not firmware-altering hard drive experts, that the pogoplug is marketed to.

I read all that stuff about the hard drive and the USB and Bla bla bla, but it's obviously nonsense . The product is defective if it damages your other equipment. The pogoplug is damaging equipment by running it nonstop. If you make a defective product, it's your responsibility to provide support.

Oh, and thank you for calling me ignorant for "regurgitating." That's nice.

October 11, 2010 1:36 PM updated: October 11, 2010 4:58 PM

Hello,

In general, any HDD connected to the Pogoplug should spindown when not in use. Keep in mind that if it's busy processing metadata or transcoding video for a drive with GIGs of content, that causes drive I/O even if you're not accessing it yourself via web or DriveApp.

While it's true that there has been talk of some drives not spinning down, the Pogoplug follows the USB "spec" - if you will - about what idle means. If a drive doesn't spindown, it almost always means the drive(or enclosure) maker did not fully obey the spindown spec. If a drive spins down connected to your PC, and yet does not spindown on a Pogoplug that is NOT running any kind of media-processing... support tickets should be created so that we can have a list of those and perhaps have a workaround someday to fix it.

EDIT: A drive that requires vendor software to be installed on the user's computer before it can be used, might be an important part to the puzzle of why the drive behaves well on the computer but not the Pogoplug.

Thanks,

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

October 11, 2010 2:52 PM

Hi-

OK, I'll send you the drives that don't spin down, but I'm not sure I know how to get the info. One is an Iomega, one is a Samsung, and the third is a Hitachi. None of them spin down on the pogoplug, all spin down on the computer. Let me know how to get you the exact info.

Also, since the drives are constantly online, it be possible to just remotely detect this info? Occasionally poll the drives for temperature and make/model?

October 11, 2010 3:16 PM

Hello,


While some info about the drive model is available to the logs the support team can pull from a Pogoplug remotely, not all of it is.

If you could find the drives on a website that sells them, the specs tend to be there as well. Also, most spinning drives have stickers on them with a bunch of info. Those would help us as well.

Thanks,

The only limit to the Pogoplug is your imagination... and C skills... and linux skills. ^_^ h\t\tp://download.pogoplug.com/opensource/pogoplug-gcc.tar.bz2

October 11, 2010 6:30 PM

In my case spin down problems were related to the external USB hard drive and not the pogoplug. If the drive manufacturer provided software tools which give control of the drive sleep function then use them to set this as desired. Check the drive manufacturers support web site for their drive utility software.

Here is my experience;

http://www.pogoplugged.com/forum/thread/11639/Allow-Attached-Drive-to-Spin-Down/?page=2#7403

Remember, its not what life does to you, but what you do with what life does to you, that matters.

December 4, 2010 4:14 PM

Anyone using a hard drive for storage should keep a backup. First rule of computing is to never keep all your data on one drive!

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