This isn't a pogoplug issue really.
The media players support only some types of video and the pogoplug is just providing files. the closest thing I can relate it to is your average word document, great if you have word they work fine, but if you use say open office or just notepad, things can seem fine but some bits are not right. read a word document in notepad and its a mess, read it in open office and the words are great but the macros won't work. Video is the same the iPhone for example has a very limited ability to play video. It's fine with mp4 and flv but there is no xvid support. likewise the PS3 supports divx but not mkv.
The pogoplug isn't to blame for this, it's doing it's job but the media player isn't.
Ok I am trying to access my pogoplug thru my WII using Tversity,ORB,Playon and all the thing does is sit there. The makers really need to fix this problem. Music plays no problem but videos leave ALOT to be desired.
I also tried what another poster said to do and that was trancode the videos before I input them into pogoplug but they all have to be mp4 which looks like crap on a big screen. Even after I did that I still could not view them on my iphone.
Pogoplug is a great idea for files and music but alot of work needs to be done on the movies. It is not worth 100.00
When I first got my pogoplug I just let it run to transcode everything and thatmy external hardrive went for a week straigt 24 hours a day nonstop and I think it transcoded 30 of my 200 movies. The process needs to be FASTER.
I agree. Pogoplug has built-in media server with added function of transcoding to make some media files available on browser playback. I am no expert, but suspect the transcoding isn't PogoPlug's expertise.
I have a large collection of media files in various formats, mostly avi and mkv. Call me lazy, but I am no fan of re-encoding them into Pogo compatible mp4 or let the device to transcode, which not only will lose additional HDD space but video quality. Although I can still play back on my Win 7 with various media player and decoder packs, the convenience of watch them on my iDevices anywhere in the house has always attracted me. I tried couple media player for ipad which supports DLNA/UPNP (Buzz Player, Air Player), although plays everything I throw at them, have all failed with Pogoplug on the video side.
I am no expert here, but suspect the latest firmware that supports DLNA/UPNP for XBOX360 and PS3 might not support every devices (correct me if wrong). I think there's another wish list discussion about SAMBA support - would definitely see that coming.
Sorry to play the correct game, but there seems to be a common theme to the transcoding issue.
Transcoding is turning one video format to another.
Pogoplug provides a transcoder but this is for convenience not because of the pogoplug.
A UPNP or DNLA device is designed to find UPNP/DNLA servers.
The file playback is down to the player. This means if it doesn't support the file being provided then it won't work. for example I have an Xvid file and the pogoplug provides the server for it, my PS3 which can play Xvid files plays it from the pogoplug fine, the xbox 360 which cannot play Xvid files surprisingly cannot play this file. In this case if I used the pogoplug transcoder I can turn this file into a file both can play.
DNLA/UPNP is not a magic weapon in this if the file is unsupported on a player, streaming it won't fix that.
DNLA is an alternative to the likes of samba for providing files. It is a standard only for providing the files to a playing device. not for playback.
As for ps3/Xbox firmware, they already support the standard that is DNLA and all new firmwares will do to help the issue is add new filetypes they can playback.
This really isn't a pogoplug issue as long as your DNLA device see's the pogoplug and any files on it then it's job is done, the rest is down to the player. The only argument to be had is wether the transcoder should have been provided in the way it has. I think it should have been a separate app or a cloud service to make use of some bigger processing power, but that is a cost issue.
Some type of hardware based encoding might be a thought for future versions, at least as an optional feature.
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Something to add to all this, why cant they just make the online playback play files other than MP4? One big part of the Pogoplug allure for me is being able to watch a movie of mine in the airport or something like that. It may not solve the phone video issue, but at least we would have to trans-code in the first place.
Also, programs like Tversity use ffdshow to decode. Why cant Pogoplug?
You can use the Pogoplug drive program and then watch the video on your computer using whatever player you have on it.
The transcoding helps for phone or browser viewing.
I use a program called handbrake to transcode all videos before putting them on my pogoplug. It transcodes them into mp4 (h.264). Ask if you need more info and settings and what not. The videos play great through the pogoplug service. Hooked my laptop up to the 42" LCD and videos look great and play great as well. They also play using my itouch 2G. Never really had a problem with using this software.
Okay, thanks to Brendon C and Rock for the reply. Brendon C, good call on the drive program. I was over thinking the problem.
Rock, I have been using Handbreak. but when you have 2TB of video, it gets to be a little crazy. So, through my craze, I found a way to make most types of video work with no decoding/transcoding down time (as long as you are in a wireless network). It was right in front of my nose.
Tversity (http://Tversity.com) is a program that uses ffdshow (http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/) which is a program full of codexes to decode video on the fly. Which means no Handbreak Downtime. Tversity can be used on most devices such as phones and gaming systems. I have been using it forever from my laptop and it works great. I dont know why i didnt think of it sooner, but now that i have a pogoplug i must have been too busy figuring out all it does to make rational thought.
Here goes, if you use the Pogoplug drive program to make the Pogoplug show up as a drive in MyComputer, you can access it in TVersity. TVersity can from that point stream the videos from the pogoplug, just like it was when the HDDs were hooked up to my laptop, to anything in the wireless network such as gaming system or phone. This is great for home networks for obvious reasons.
Now, just to find a way for TVersity or something like it to broadcast over 3g for downtime with my phone at work.....
Doesn't Tversity cost money to access all of the features it has to offer? And also it wont stream over the internet to devices not on the network.
And also you do not need a pogoplug to do this. I can use Tversity straight from a computer on your network. It makes the pogoplug obsolete.
Yeah, but the only thing that costs money is getting to watch youtube and stuff like that on it. you can access all local files and stream them over a wireless network for free. As for as over the internet, you are half corect. You can access TVersity from another computer over the internet and use its wireless network to broadcast. but this doesnt really help us if we are sitting in the airport.
the reason why pogoplug is handy to have for me is... well here is my situation.
I have an xbox. I have a laptop. i am constantly adding new files to my laptop via whatever means possible. I have a few externals. I want to roam with my laptop without having to connect and disconnect my HDDs all the time to transfer the new files. I also want to have the HDDs available on my xbox all the time. TVersity helps with the xbox when my HDDs are attached to my comp, but only when im not roaming. Pogoplug allows me to keep my HDDs safe and imobile while im transfering files from my comp to them while roaming and keeps my whole set up a little more clean and managable. on top of that Pogoplug has its own intrinsic values such as sharing and printer access.
A little convoluted? yes. but in the end maybe it will help people with their own trans-coding issues.
Dreamer_uk said: This isn't a pogoplug issue really. The media players support only some types of video and the pogoplug is just providing files. the closest thing I can relate it to is your average word document, great if you have word they work fine, but if you use say open office or just notepad, things can seem fine but some bits are not right. read a word document in notepad and its a mess, read it in open office and the words are great but the macros won't work. Video is the same the iPhone for example has a very limited ability to play video. It's fine with mp4 and flv but there is no xvid support. likewise the PS3 supports divx but not mkv. The pogoplug isn't to blame for this, it's doing it's job but the media player isn't.
Going to have do disagree with you Dreamer. On the PS3, streaming .avi/divx files still requires a transcoding process, which is very annoying. I have two 2tb drives that are clones of one another. One plugged directly into the PS3 plays all my movies. Try and play them through the PP and god only knows how long it will take to play. I have yet to sit here and stare at the screen long enough to wait for it to transcode.
I agree with original poster, this needs to be fixed.
My Pogoplug collecting durst for a year because I couldn't use it for any purpose. It used to be able to play mp4 files from the browser and from the iphone app just fine. Now, whenever I play any mp4 file from a web browser Pogoplug tries to trans-code it to a flash video (whose quality is a lot degraded compared to the original mp4 file). The process takes a long time and useless because of the poorer video quality.
Can I disable it?
The Iphone app cannot play any of these videos any more. It crashes whenever I try to play a video. It used to be working fine last year before I left it collecting dust and before Pogoplug upgraded itself.
And, funny thing, while Pogoplug tries to convert all my mp4 videos to flash videos, it cannot play any of the flv (flash) videos I collected.
There is a setting under "media settings" to disable full transcodes. This feature is useful if your videos are already in a format that the pogoplug can read. I do this and all of my videos stream great to my computer over the internet and also my ipod touch 2G.
Thanks Rock!
I was able to see that settings, and it seems I don't have to go through the trans-coding any more. Now I just have to figure out what's wrong with the Pogoplug on Iphone 3gs with 3.1.2 firmware, it crashes every time I try to play a video (whether it was trans-coded or not)
Thanks again & Happy New Year!
-Thanh

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