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willfriedwald

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this is possibly related to the permissions issue (which I haven't yet resolved)...

my question: what is the best way (if any) to search for files on a drive mounted via pogo?

trying it off-handedly, so far it seems like a Mac Finder search and spotlight search can NOT find anything on a pogo drive.  Although possibly that has to do with whether the drive is formatted in Mac or PC?

can someone give me some suggestions or guidelines with regards to searching on a pogo drive... whether it's a basic search (just the name of the file or folder) or a deeper search, which would search the meta-data - ideally, I would LOVE to be able to do the latter - that would make the whole Pogo set-up especially valuable to me!

Willfriedwald

PS: one thing I've notice: normally PCs can NOT read a drive formatted in Mac, however, apparently a PC can read a Mac-format drive IF it is connected via Pogo (and can do so over the remote network... very good to know!) 

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May 9, 2010 12:09 PM updated: May 9, 2010 12:20 PM

PS: how does one access the media processing options? I believe that there's a tab for "allow pogo plug to access meta data." How do I find that?

thanks!

w

May 10, 2010 12:15 PM

It's under media settings, as shown here:

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May 10, 2010 12:54 PM

thanks - now do I access this setting in the web browser or in the pogo mini-app itself?

thanks again,

WF

May 10, 2010 1:11 PM

That screenshot is from the web application (my.pogoplug.com)

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May 10, 2010 1:16 PM

I found it - thank you. So far so good... according to the settings, meta-data is already enabled to be processed "as soon as possible."

so say I have thousands of songs on a pogo-connected drive - what is the best way to search for a specific song? Or artist folder?

Thanks again...

W

May 10, 2010 3:29 PM

I usually just type in the artist name and go from there - it's fast, and I have 48GB of music alone, not counting podcasts.

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May 15, 2010 8:36 AM

Hmm... something's wrong - I don't seem to be able to search at all - I try searching from my mac to a pogo drive formatted in Mac and another formatted in DOS, and spotlight can't find anything - even when I search for something as basic as file name...

May 15, 2010 9:24 AM

I'm interested in the SEARCH function too. What is the web browser-based Pogo searching? The meta-data within the tags or just the file names within the folders on the Pogo drive?

I think what willfriedwald is trying to do is use Mac's Finder which does display the Pogo-mounted drive but when a Finder Spotlight search is performed the Pogo-drive files ARE NOT indexed by Spotlight so Finder will never "find" the Pogo files.

Is this correct?

May 15, 2010 9:31 AM

that makes sense ...

so theoretically there should be a way to get spotlight to index the Pogo drives?

let's look into this!

WF

May 20, 2010 5:37 PM

me again - still puzzling this one out ---

David seems to be right, spotlight does NOT index the pogo drives as if they were actual volumes.

is there anyway to get the MAC OS (or the windows OS) to recognize the pogo-mounted drives in that fashion - as if they were actual volumes?

This is fairly essential! Right now I attached a big drive with about 1700 GB of music - and pogo can mount the whole thing. But it severely limits its usefulness if I can't search for a specific song or artist...

let's give this one some thought - there's gotta be a way...

W

May 20, 2010 5:56 PM updated: May 20, 2010 6:07 PM

I'm having Google Desktop index my P drive. I imagine it could do it on the MAC as well. There's a gDesktop plug-in (audioindexfiler) that reportedly will recognize and index common audio files. I don't know if that's quite the solution, but I'll let you know how it goes with the music I have on the drive.

Having started this remotely. It occurs to me that this might be a process I'd rather do while my computer is attached locally.

May 21, 2010 5:37 AM updated: May 21, 2010 5:58 AM

thanks for the suggestion.

Am totally unfamiliar with Google desktop, will look into it.

Am not sure if this is a relevant question or not: if the drive is indexed at the internal (original) location, does it also have to be indexed at the remote computer as well?

will it then make the metadata accessible? As opposed to merely the file title, I mean. Can we then search under "artist" even if the artist name is NOT part of the file title... like that?

Thanks!

W

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10 minutes later: no dice! I get a message that "google desktop can not be installed on this computer." Apparently google desktop is not compatible with Mac Snow Leopard OS 10.6.3 - does anyone have any knowledge of this?

Thanks again...

W

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another update - I downloaded something called "Google Quick Search Box" (does this replace google desktop for snow leopard?)

anyhow, not quite sure what this does or how it works - how would I get this to search a pogo drive - if anyone has any info, let me know...

W

May 21, 2010 10:08 AM updated: May 21, 2010 10:22 AM

I got home and discovered the same thing. I have QuickSearchBox on my Mac too, and it's not quite the same as Desktop. I'm not sure of the details, but I think it goes something like this.. Mac already has a decent search where Windows doesn't (didn't?), and Google had avoided stepping on Job's toes (no longer an issue apparently).

I did go poking around and found that there are plugins for QuickSearch that suggest inclusion of network locations - presumably you could point it at the drive. What I couldn't figure out was how to integrate the plug-ins (I stopped after it looked like it would require more research).

Link to plugins for QSB

When you said a while back that you can't search, was that using the search box at the top of the my.pogoplug web interface?

D.

May 21, 2010 12:42 PM

on the interface you can - I have tried it - in a limited basis...

you can only search for filename - when you're search for music, most of the time you want to do a search by artist.

obviously, a browser-based search is not as flexible as searching on a desktop - better than nothing, but not much use.

I never heard of google desktop - did that work on 10.5 and under?

will take a look at the plugins, hopefully try it tom'w, maybe...

thanks

WF

May 21, 2010 2:25 PM updated: May 21, 2010 2:28 PM

Dunno.  Desktop is something that's always been just, "there" until I need it.  On XP I need it a lot, on the Mac; not as much.  

Wikipedia suggests that it did work on previous versions of the OSx, but they haven't done anything to make it work with Snow Leopard.  We'll see... 

I did find a procedure to install a plugin for the QuickSearchBox - here - that I'll try later wit the network plugin.  

May 22, 2010 8:57 AM updated: May 22, 2010 8:57 AM

My friend David Garrick found this - it looks like it may be a solution - it involves terminal commands etc :

http://forum.multiplexapp.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=17

am going to try it...

thanks!

w

May 22, 2010 9:05 AM

I'm having better luck with QuickSearchBox on the Mac. There's a 2.0.0.3328 which is a public beta. I added on the network locations, and am able to find items by searching.

Now here's the thing. It also searches your iTunes. Since I put all my music on the external drive and set up iTunes to find the library there, I'm not sure which plugin it's using to find the music, but it does find it.

I typed in Willie Dixon and it returns web search option, lyrics search option. If I hit the right arrow while on his name it gives me a list that includes the album, a selection for "play in iTunes". If I hit the right arrow again it shows me a list of the songs.

This might be working. I'm not sure it works absolutely as planned since I'm not sure how it's finding the music. I suspect it's accessing the iTunes library.

May 22, 2010 4:53 PM

willfriedwald said: My friend David Garrick found this - it looks like it may be a solution - it involves terminal commands etc : http://forum.multiplexapp.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=17 am going to try it... thanks! w

Can someone tell me why we cannot force Mac's Spotlight/Finder to index a PogoPlug drive via the mdutil command in Terminal?

The Pogoplug drive shows up fine in using the list command (ls -l) but when we do a

sudo mdutil -s /Volumes/thepogoplugdrive

we get this error:  

Error: could not resolve path '/Volumes/thepogoplugdrive' when we clearly see the path in the list command.

Whatsup with this? Is the Pogobox keeping us out? My Pogo drive is Mac-formatted so it should allow us to force Spotlight indexing.

June 25, 2010 9:01 AM updated: June 25, 2010 9:09 AM

I KNEW if I read the forums long enough I would find someone else has mentioned this issue. I'd like the native Mac's search functin (Spotlight indexing) to be able to find and index files on the popgoplug drives, and it can't see them. When the same drive is plugged into the mac directly, no problem. Any solution for this?

Hmmm. This might also be related to the disc drives not spinning down when inactive. If the Mac is trying to index them but can't read or perhaps can't write the index files (wherever they are?)?

August 30, 2010 11:56 AM

Any resolution to this? I tried the command line stuff and I could a path error- no surprise there.

August 30, 2010 12:01 PM

I love the pogo, and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone & everyone, but this is a serious drawback: apparently you just can't do searches via the "mount" application.

Searches are possible (awkward but possible) when you access the drive via the Browser.

When I say "awkward" here's an example: you search for a song title using the browser - chances are you have multiple versions of the same song by different artists. How do you know which is what? The only way to figure it out is to start playing each sound file until you hear the artist you're looking for. Like I say, it works but is awkward.

What would be helpful is if the browser could display some basic meta-data, like the artist's name - right now all it displays is the file title (and, for songs, often the embedded artwork - which is nice.... it can access the artwork embedded in the metadata, which means it must be theoretically capable of accessing the artist's name as well..)

W

August 30, 2010 12:59 PM

An option for traditional sharing/mounting would nice for those who need features found in those methods and are willing to take the more "complicated" route. I'm sure the capability is there given the architecture/os. Opening that up would extend functionality dramatically IMO.

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