I have had my network port for about a week. Today two of the three drives are failing to show on the network. I tried to re initialize by shutting everything down but still only one drive showing. Tried to enter the pogo plugged website but it refuses to let me log in to see if there is any remedy for this problem. Guess it's time to look for another product, since this one is looking a lot like a waste of $80.00.
Categories: PogoPlug Development
I'll keep it as short and simple as possible:
TonidoPlug and Sheevaplug support booting from USB - kernels and all. Both of those run 2.6.33 with Webcam, ext4, and lots of great new things..support. This is the "full" and "official" PlugApps install and is the whole experience and isn't limited by anything.
Pogoplug doesn't have a bootloader that loads from USB because CloudEngines said so. They also embedded the device ID into the bootloader variables (instead of in a simple configuration file).
So PlugApps right now first boots the old 2.6.22.18 kernel and just enough to trick the system to veer off the bootup path into PlugApps on a USB drive. This means that the kernel is still old and remnants of Pogoplug's firmware are all over the place. It also loads up my.pogoplug.com functionality (by the XCE module). The XCE module only works on 2.6.22.18.
So we (IanJB and aholler for the very large majority) came up with installing a second bootloader and telling Pogoplug's proprietary bootloader to load the other one. The other bootloader loads a kernel and operating system from USB just like any other plug would. It's better, faster, and remnant and failure-free. Runs the newest kernel and all as well.
But it doesn't have my.pogoplug.com functionality because we still don't have a 2.6.33 XCE module from Cloud Engines. There is no ETA for this. We've been asking for a few weeks now though.
That's where we're at.
The problem with PlugApps wiki at this time - and the biggest thing limiting it - are the age of the tutorials and the lack of content. Add that the wiki is locked, so people cant contributor or fix errors, and that means the one person who has access is the bottleneck.
Nevermind the fact that things installed with pacman don't work 90% of the time, based on my personal experience. Sure, the mypogo functionality is lacking, intrusive, and the lack of security - port 80 is effectively running a root shell after all - make it something most companies would never want running on their network but if you want to present an alternative the least you could do is provide some basic NAS network capabilities. As it stands, the default installs of Samba, Apache, or ftpd do not even work.
I don't see any spam on our forums or wiki. All you need to do to edit it is be a registered member. We have the standard "Block new and unregistered users" restriction on most of the wiki because of spammers. You're also free to use discussion pages, which are unlocked for everybody.
Maybe you're talking about the OpenPogo forums and wiki though. Those are old and not what we're talking about here.
So crimson, am I understanding you correctly? Did you just say that the wiki is not locked, but people simply do not update it? I actually tried to add my experience to it to improve it, but found no edit button.. so pardon me, no hostility intended.
I recently installed a FreeAgent Go/Stardock based system using a 750gig free agent go drive. I did this without following the instructions on the wiki, because the wiki has a few things missing. It was easier for me because I also run gentoo stage 1 installs for fun; But I doubt many noobs have the same experience.
That said, I was up till 5am last night working on this. I love the possibilities of this hardware but I'm not really happy with the "service" part of it as I find the implementation technically sloppy and insecure, not to mention the thought of servers I don't control being able to send commands to a device on a network I had thought I had locked down disturbs me greatly as a parent.
We got the XCE source code put up on http://pogoplug.com/opensource It was GPL'ed the whole time.
So what does this mean for us "Noobs" is PlugApps still working? should I invest my time in it? Is Pogoplug still a good thing? I'm so confused....
PlugApps...Openpogo... Pogoplug :)
crimsonredmk said: We got the XCE source code put up on http://pogoplug.com/opensource It was GPL'ed the whole time.Does this mean can we have PogoPlug 2.5.6 with PlugBox Linux? I would like have both PlugBox Linux and my.pogoplug.com since it will best of both world.
I'm not seeing replies to the latest couple of posts, what is the latest news?
The answer is on the installation page for Plugapps. Just need to read it. All the different platforms such as Plugapps(ArchLinux), Debian, Openwrt, etc. require a different bootloader so my.pogoplug.com won't work. If you want my.pogoplug.com and simultaneously add software packages to the built in Busybox, you need Optware packages. Good enough choices. I think for the most part, if you use the alternate u-boot, when you unplug the usb stick with the OS, you are back to the my.pogoplug.com functionality. So if you want, have alternate OS on one USB, and data on another. Then unplug OS USB when you want my.pogoplug.com functionality.
I try to open http://pogoplug.com/opensource and see this:
403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.
But the GPL requires free access to the source code. Where is?
The page was moved when we switched the site to multi-lingual. The correct url is: http://www.pogoplug.com/home-en-developers-open-source.html You can also get to it by clicking on the "Developers" link from www.pogoplug.com site. All of the open source code/credits can be found there.
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