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rlieving

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Joined: 03/18/2010

First, I want to say, if any product could disappoint me more, I would be surprised.

 I bought a Pogoplug and a brand new disc drive to store my data.  I plugged my Pogoplug in and it was recognized right away.  Little did I know, that was the last thing that would go right for the night.

 The first thing I noticed is that the Pogoplug cannot see my drive.  Hmmm....maybe I have a bad one.  So, I hooked it directly up to my Windows machine and it saw it right away.  Great!  It works, must be me - I'll go to the forums to see.

No help in the forums.  I'll sign up and submit a thread.  Oh - create a new user name and password.

Wait - there's some help.  I'll click on that.  Want to submit a ticket?  Create a new user name and password.  Ok - that's 3 new credentials I have just given PogoPlug.

I submit my ticket and get an email.  Now what?  The Pogoplug site will NOT LET ME LOG IN.  It says I have an invalid password.  Ok - maybe I do...where to change it?  YOU CAN'T!!!!

Now I have to wait for the Pogoplug 'team' to contact me.  How long will that take?  Who knows?!?!?!?!

This totally and completely sucks.  I know what Pogoplugged means now.  It means ripped off!  Even if I get helped at this point, I cannot imagine a worse experience.

If you just bought Pogoplug, expect problems.  It will not be a smooth 'Plug and Play' experience that they promote on their website and expensive boxes. 

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March 18, 2010 10:24 PM

I'm sorry you've had a bad experience but that doesn't mean everyone else should "expect problems." I just bought and unboxed mine a few short days ago and have had a very good experience.

I searched for other posts from you in which you described your problem, posted error messages, or screen shots and couldn't find any. Perhaps if you could try to provide a more helpful description of your problems we could provide you with some useful help.

-Mike

March 18, 2010 10:29 PM

I'm sorry things didn't go smoothly for you. Support is incredibly responsive, so you will get help. We also monitor this forum, but in general these kinds of issues are best solved with the help of our support team. My direct email is jed@pogoplug.com, but you will most likely hear from Adam or Chris in the next few hours, if not already. We'll get you up and running quickly!

March 18, 2010 10:51 PM

1. The Pogoplug cannot see my drive.
2. The Pogoplug now cannot be seen by the service...but could earlier tonight.

Simply put - it is flakey and not working. Can I make it more plain?

Look - I work in technology and am willing to work with hardware. But I am shocked by the complete lack of troubleshooting material on this product.

March 18, 2010 11:44 PM

Hey everyone

http://my.pogoplug.com is back up. The various problems that people were seeing that showed up as 500 errors as well as login errors have been resolved. Our engineering team was alerted when the problem showed up and went to work immediately to resolve it. We certainly regret the inconvenience this service outage has caused, and definitely appreciate the quick responses here and to our support team on this issue.

Thanks all!
Jon

March 19, 2010 7:11 AM

Great. One issue down...one to go.

The Pogoplug cannot see my drive. Where is the troubleshooting guide that tells me how to resolve this issue? If it exists, I'll do it myself.

March 19, 2010 7:14 AM

MacMike said:

I'm sorry you've had a bad experience but that doesn't mean everyone else should "expect problems." I just bought and unboxed mine a few short days ago and have had a very good experience.

I searched for other posts from you in which you described your problem, posted error messages, or screen shots and couldn't find any. Perhaps if you could try to provide a more helpful description of your problems we could provide you with some useful help.

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Looks like there was some 'bad luck' whereby at the same time I plugged in and tried to see my drive, the service went down.

While I am glad you had a good experience (and expect to have one too), the simple fact remains. The Pogoplug cannot see my drive, there isn't any troubleshooting documentation (that I have seen) and now the service went down for a few hours.

March 19, 2010 10:00 AM

@rlieving - best bet is to contact support for that - there are myriad reasons that a drive may not be being seen, and they'll be able to help you with that.

March 19, 2010 10:05 AM

Yes. I have posted a ticket and they are working on it.

To be fair to Pogoplug, the server went down just as I was trying to sign in. That compounded my frustration.

I also tested with a flash drive and the drive I want to use, which is an IOSafe drive. It can see the flash drive, it cannot see the IOSafe drive.

They are looking into it - but if they want to replace my cloud-based services then they have to support my fire/water-proof drive.

March 19, 2010 10:09 AM

Good good - if they haven't suggested pulling it out and running chkdsk in your Mac or PC you could give that a try - if the drive isn't mounting, it could be because we think there's a problem with it.

March 19, 2010 10:21 AM

Running it now.

It hooks up to my Windows7 machine without issue. I did test it before sending my complaint, on the potentially embarrassing chance IOSafe sent me a bunky drive.

I will try to remount it once CheckDisk has been run.

March 19, 2010 10:23 AM

Do you think formatting the drive via Windows will make a difference? If so, what file system should I use?

March 19, 2010 10:26 AM

hmm...unlikely, but it's possible. the supported formats are HFS+ (Journaled and non), FAT, NTFS, EXT2 and EXT3.If you were to format via Windows I'd recommend NTFS. I've found EXT2/3 to be as fast if not faster than NTFS and just as reliable. I like NTFS better because my main is an XP laptop, so I can more easily diagnose problems with the drive (if I had Linux everywhere I'd probably go w/EXT). Not a lot of experience with the HFS flavors personally. FAT is slow - more universally accessible, but slow.

March 19, 2010 12:13 PM

I ran checkdisk on the drive - no errors. So, the problem is that Pogoplug cannot mount my IOSafe drive.

I did not reformat the drive, per the discussion above. IOSafe comes out of the box NTFS (I believe).

Pogoplug still cannot see the drive - plus the website runs S-L-O-W.

One piece of advice for Pogoplug. In reading the forums, it looks like there may be router (and now drive) compatibility issues. Understanding these issues BEFORE I buy the Pogoplug would prevent any flames being thrown out.
Maybe PP should publish a list of known devices that work and known issues. If such a list exists, then I do not know about it.

At the same time, I think PP could benefit from some cross-marketing with IOSafe (or similar) as an alternative to JunglDisk/Mozy/Zumo/etc. But first, the devices have to be compatible.

So, I am waiting for the ticket to be resolved.

March 19, 2010 12:56 PM

I've had a great experience so far. It sounds like you probably need to change the DNHS settings on your router. That seems to be many people's problem when they can't view drives.

March 19, 2010 12:57 PM updated: March 19, 2010 12:59 PM

Ok - can you be more specific? Change the settings to what? Change the settings FROM WHAT?

What is a DNHS setting?

March 19, 2010 2:09 PM

Apologies, I meant to say "DHCP", not "DNHS". Here is another thread from someone that seemed to be having the same issue as you: http://www.pogoplugged.com/forum/thread/13006/How-Do-You-Get-PogoPlug-to-Work/

You could probably just Google "How to enable DHCP settings" and see if that works.

March 19, 2010 2:22 PM updated: March 19, 2010 2:23 PM

Well, thanks for your suggestion.

I'm no networking wiz, so DHCP is definitely turned on for my router. I don't want to manually manage connections - so DHCP is on.

The current setting on my Netgear router is 'DHCP Client'. According to the documentation, it says 'Client...IP address is obtained dynamically'.

If you read in the middle (these posts are getting long, so I don't blame you for missing this), you will see that my Pogoplug can read a Microcenter flash thumb drive but not an ioSafe drive.

The problem appears to be with Pogoplug recognizing the ioSafe and not a routing issue. I wouldn't characterize these issues as being the same at all.

March 19, 2010 2:37 PM

I'm no networking expert either, I just came across that thread and thought it was relevant.

The only other thing I can think of is pre-loaded software that's on the ioSafe Drive. I've had external drives before that had software built into them, for example, the Sandisk thumb drives that have that U3 software on them. I found that the drive didn't work/was not recognized by certain hardware (pretty much anything that wasn't Windows). To make a long story short, the reason was because whenever the drive was plugged into anything, it tried to start that program immediately (also had password protection which made things even more complicated), but if the device that it was being plugged into could not load that software, it wouldn't work at all! I ended up having to disable the password and deleted the software that came on the device, I reformatted it then everything worked fine.

Just an idea.

March 19, 2010 2:40 PM

Thanks for the help and suggestions.

I can try reformatting the drive later and will let you know what the results are. But if the software is embedded in the USB (as I think it is...), well then I'm not going to get far.

March 19, 2010 2:46 PM

Reformatting it should completely wipe anything on the drive...including pre-loaded software. Hope it helps...

March 19, 2010 2:49 PM

Hmm...the issue may not be the drive, I'm afraid (although if you're comfortable with wiping the drive it's worth a try). Some devices, like the Western Digital MyBook Mirrors (which have internal FW) don't work with a Pogoplug - we expect a drive to be mounted, and they don't present as a drive. What version of IOSafe do you have? The SSD? R4?

March 19, 2010 2:53 PM

I have this one:

https://iosafe.com/500GB-solo-external-hard-drive

Solo, USB drive. I can't get more basic than that at ioSafe.

Pogoplug takes any USB drive...ioSafe is a USB drive...they should go together right?

March 19, 2010 3:50 PM

Jon.QA said:

Hmm...the issue may not be the drive, I'm afraid (although if you're comfortable with wiping the drive it's worth a try). Some devices, like the Western Digital MyBook Mirrors (which have internal FW) don't work with a Pogoplug - we expect a drive to be mounted, and they don't present as a drive. What version of IOSafe do you have? The SSD? R4?


I'm wiping it now.

What is an 'internal FW'?

March 19, 2010 3:54 PM

Internal firmware. In something like a Drobo, a WD Mirror, or other (usually they call them storage solutions, or raid solutions, or SANs, or something else to distinguish them from a plain vanilla drive, but not always) there is often a chip that controls the access to the drives, and attempts to talk to your computer as though it were a drive. Your Pogoplug IS a computer, but one designed specifically to handle plain USB drives, so we don't always work with such devices out of the box. I'm not yet convinced what you're seeing is something along those lines - it might be a bad drive, or a bug in our software, but that is a possibility with any drive / device that has added features.

March 19, 2010 3:59 PM

What added features do you think ioSafe comes with?

It doesn't seem special to me (nor do I want it to) except that it's a big, heavy, fireproof and waterproof drive. Did you see something in the specs that makes you think it is incompatible with PP?

Also - what is the timeframe for turning around issues? How long should it take for an update?

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