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rick151

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I've seen many discussions of assigning a drive letter.  All I want to know, being that I just plugged this thing in, is can you simply assign a drive letter, without have to make .bat files or scripts yet?  If so, is there a way to always no, that the file letter you assign today, is the same next week?  I only need a simple yes or no answer.  I'm getting ready to send this thing back.  Also If not, is the drive letter that it is assigning permanent?

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February 22, 2010 4:51 PM

Right now there is no way in the preferences to assign a permanent drive letter to your Pogoplug. The Pogoplug will either take the P drive, of if that is not available the next available letter in the alphabet.

As a workaround you could just make sure no other application takes P, and that would ensure that P always goes for your drive app. There is an outstanding feature request to allow users to fix the drive letter in the Preferences UI of the drive app - I'd be curious to know if other readers think this among the most important feature requests?

At the moment, this feature isn't planned for a near term release, but it's definitely something that we are looking into.

Thanks,
Jon

February 22, 2010 10:46 PM

I guess I don't understand why you don't think this is important to a windows user? I have Tivo transcoding TV shows to the drives connected to the Pogo so my daughter can watch them while away at school. I have to tell Tivo the location of the folder where it will put the transcoded files. If I reboot the Windows machine or for some reason Pogo drops, now my drive letters have changed and I have to go reconfigure the Tivo transcoding folder. Big pain. Your work around is not reliable. I bought this instead of a Slingbox and now I think I might have spent money more wisely on the Slingbox. Do you have any suggestions so I don't have to check daily to insure the Tivo folder is where I think it is?

February 23, 2010 9:08 AM

You can create a bat file to start up Pogoplug using a specific drive letter.
For example
cd\program files
cd pogoplug
ppfs.exe -s -l P

Add to start up and turn off auto start in Pogo preferences.
But if the drive already exists it will drop down to the next available drive.

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February 23, 2010 12:34 PM

My Pogo is officially back in the mail being sent back. I can't deal with the hassle.

February 23, 2010 3:10 PM updated: March 11, 2011 9:44 AM

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February 23, 2010 6:27 PM

I guess I thought that is what Pogo would do on startup of windows but perhaps not. I would like to see some doc on how to make Pogo from the vendor on how to go to P: and stay there. My problem arose when, for whatever reason, Pogo took a vacation and I plugged in a thumb drive a couple of times. Next thing I know, Pogo is U: and my hopes of using Pogo as an aux drive is gone. So now I have to reboot my Windows 7 machine, which is nearly as stable as my Ubuntu box in order to have P: back if anything has a little issue. I'm going to look at PlugApps in hopes that the Samba support is a little less finicky than the windows Pogo software. I realize that windows has issues with drive letters but I also know how to force a USB drive to a letter and would like to have that capability with Pogo.

March 5, 2010 10:38 AM

Jon.QA said: Right now there is no way in the preferences to assign a permanent drive letter to your Pogoplug. The Pogoplug will either take the P drive, of if that is not available the next available letter in the alphabet. As a workaround you could just make sure no other application takes P, and that would ensure that P always goes for your drive app. There is an outstanding feature request to allow users to fix the drive letter in the Preferences UI of the drive app - I'd be curious to know if other readers think this among the most important feature requests? At the moment, this feature isn't planned for a near term release, but it's definitely something that we are looking into. Thanks, Jon
I'm not sure if I represent all Windows users, but for me this is an absolute requirement for me. I'd really like to buy a Pogoplug, but I won't until this capability is available. I want to use Pogoplug attached drives for backup, with a Windows program set up to automatically do incremental backups to a specific drive. I won't do that unless I know for sure all the drive letters will be the same each time I bring my laptop home and get on my wireless home network.

March 5, 2010 10:42 AM

bidmead said: What rick151 has run into here is a Windows problem, not a Pogoplug problem. Allocating drive letters to storage devices was a kluge from the days of minicomputers that Bill Gates carried over to DOS* before he discovered UNIX (where every device is treated like another file under the all-embracing root directory). Bill developed a growing enthusiasm for UNIX in the mid-80s but by the time he got round to doing Windows a lot of code in his operating system -- and, of course a lot of its apps -- expected to identify drives as single letters followed by a colon, and he was stuck with it. We're still stuck with it (unless you use a Mac or Linux, which are essentially UNIX). The way Windows allocates these drive letters has always been a trifle bizarre, and it can be baffling to find some devices refusing to mount because another device has pre-empted the drive letter it was expecting. Hey-ho. IMHO if rick151 really has held onto his Windows machine and sent back his (Linux-based) PogoPlug because he "can't deal with the hassle" what he's actually done has been to throw out the baby and keep the bath-water. The essential hassle says right there inside Windows. Only kidding. Mostly... -- Chris (*Well, not quite. Gary Kildall carried drive letters over to CP/M, which made some sense on small memory 8-bit machines. Seattle Computer Products ripped off CP/M to create its own 16-bit operating system, and it was this that Bill bought into, rejigged and licenced to IBM as PC-DOS. The drive letter silliness stayed on board for the ride.)
That's kind of a bonehead way to look at it. OF COURSE the "problem" is with Windows. But ... Windows is also the most popular operating system in the world, by far. It only seems like basic common sense for Pogoplug to know that in advance, understand the limitations of Windows, and design a product that acknowledges those limitations and works around them. Not Pogoplug's problem, but one they must solve in order to really tap the Windows market.

March 9, 2010 2:20 AM

Windows provides a way to assign drive letters to drives which is handy when you run into conflicts. Right click on My Computer and select Manage My Computer. There is a section on Storage which includes hard fixed drives and removable media - but the pogo drive doesn't show up in either. Nor does it show in network attached drives. I now have P for the shared pogo drive and Q R S T U V W X all copies of the attached hard drive. The only way I have found to get them off is to reboot. I wonder what happens when I reach Z + 1?

March 9, 2010 3:35 AM updated: March 11, 2011 9:44 AM

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March 19, 2010 4:55 PM

I also think this is an important feature. Not only do I have problems with a dynamically assigned drive letter, I don't think it is too much to ask for the ability to assign the drive letter. I have a cheap little laclie network attached disk drive that allows me to do this. I have several items pointing to a specific drive to get access. For example, my itunes library looks to the network for data. Currently everything is set to Z: If I have to point to another drive, I can re-import my songs, but all my playlists will have to be recreated.

I really think you need to rethink this. If the startup workaround Brandon posted doesn't work, I think I'm going to have to return mine.

Hope you reconsider.
-keith

March 19, 2010 5:08 PM updated: March 19, 2010 5:12 PM

Assigning a drive letter in Windows take less than 30 seconds to do. No need to make any files or anything like that...just a few clicks and your problem would have been solved. You should have waited before sending it back.

rick151...not a very patient person I guess. If you find Pogoplug a "hassle", I'm curious to see how you feel about everything else tech-related...Pogoplug is as simple as it gets really.

March 19, 2010 6:43 PM updated: March 11, 2011 9:44 AM

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March 19, 2010 7:44 PM

I was under the impression that you would change the drive letter in the same manner with which you change every other drive letter, like 'Neko' said (My computer> manage, etc, etc). I just tried doing it and realized that P isn't showing up.

On the less pessimistic side, this is something that the developers are probably going to be working on so I'm sure we'll see the ability to do it in the next couple of updates.

March 19, 2010 8:15 PM updated: March 11, 2011 9:45 AM

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March 19, 2010 8:20 PM

You know, Chris, perhaps I would have taken more time to read the thread in depth had someone not decided to write an entire essay on why they think Windows is a problem. People are looking for direct answers on these threads, not opinions on what operating system is better or a history lesson on DOS.

March 19, 2010 8:29 PM

You can always use the ppfs.exe -l Q --valtoken ... deal if needed.
http://www.pogoplugged.com/forum/thread/11641/Choose-Drive-Letter/#3091

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March 20, 2010 3:15 AM updated: March 11, 2011 9:45 AM

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March 20, 2010 2:23 PM

Brandon C said: You can always use the ppfs.exe -l Q --valtoken ... deal if needed. http://www.pogoplugged.com/forum/thread/11641/Choose-Drive-Letter/#3091
Brandon - Thanks.  It appears that this workaround is going to work.  I have 2 drives connected tot he pogoplug and both are appearing under drive Z which is what I wanted.  
I actually followed these more detailed instructions from Christopher in support.  (Thanks Chris).

From the Pogoplug Preference pane, uncheck "Automatically start Pogoplug Drive on login" and "Enable multi-drive mode".

Right-click desktop>new shortcut>browse to Program Files\Pogoplug\ppfs.exe
then in the 'Target' field, manually type in switch "-l" and the desired drive letter "H" in this example. it will look like "C:\Program Files\Pogoplug\ppfs.exe" -l H 
 
Any idea on when selectable drive letters are going to be suppported in the shipping product?
 
thanks.
-k

August 21, 2010 6:42 PM

Well is there a way at least to access the drive as a networked drive such as: \\pogo\freeagentdesktop

August 21, 2010 8:45 PM

If the Pogoplug would implement Samba, then you could assign a drive letter using the \\pogo\freeagentdesktop method. I've got a Dockstar and you are able to map drives using "net use x: \\pogoname\drivename". X: is any free drive letter you want to use. I've also got a Pogoplug and it does not have the built-in Samba that the Dockstar does. I have been hoping and hoping that the Pogoplug will eventually add this fuctionality - if the Dockstar has it, why not the Pogoplug? It makes assigning your choice of drive letters easy, and also makes it easier for a Linux box to connect to one of the drives without having to mess around with the Pogoplug software.

August 21, 2010 8:54 PM

That's what I have, the Dockstar.  I just got it today so still doing research.  How did you access it via a Windows network naming conventions?

August 21, 2010 9:27 PM

If you go to "My Computer"" and "Map network drive" and "Browse", an entry starting with FADSxxxxxx should show up. Clicking on that should then show the drives you have connected to the Dockstar. Before all that, you also have to sign in to the My Pogoplug site that you use to manage the drive from the web and activate WFS on the drives you want to access with this method. You have to go to the Settings page to see all that.

Once you can map the drive, you could set up a batch file with the "net use" commands I mentioned earlier. It would look something like this: "net use X: \\FADSxxxxxx\DriveName". I've set up a batch file that runs after boot that maps the drives I have attached to the Dockstar - it allows me to use any free drive letter I want and also not have to rely on the Pogoplug software - not knocking the Pogoplug software.

August 22, 2010 7:23 AM

You the man.  Works like a charm.

Thanks.

September 1, 2010 9:45 PM

On my Win 7 system, I was able to successfully map my Dockstar Pogoplug as a network drive (under Computer/Network Locations). I was also able to get it to show up as a local drive with the driver letter I wanted under Computer/Hard Disk Drives (using Brandon's method here: http://www.pogoplugged.com/article/14329/How-To-Assign-A-Fixed-Drive-Letter-t...

Question: Which method is better in terms of consistently showing up and in access speed?

I assume that if I only go with the Mapped Network Drive option, then I won't have to bother with the Pogo Drive app, right?

Thanks.

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