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August 7, 2009 1:14 PM
yes to all of the above
Categories: Pogoplug Classic
Before I buy this, I'd like to learn what the best way is to format the hard drive that is connected to the Pogoplug to ensure the most compatibility with end users using Windows and Mac machines.
If I choose NTFS, can both Win and Mac machines remotely read and write?
If I choose Max OS Extended Journaled, can both Win and Mac machines remotely read and write?
If I choose EXT-2/EXT-3, can both Win and Mac machines remotely read and write?
Thanks for your help.
August 7, 2009 4:21 PM
Keith,
Is there anything special that needs to be done for the windows box to be able to write to an HFS+ Extended Journaled drive? I have been successfully using my Mac with an NTFS drive, but when I attach my HFS drive, my PC can't seem to write to it.
August 7, 2009 7:32 PM
I attached it to the pogoplug. I can access it through the web but when I try to click on it through the drive software, I get:
August 7, 2009 9:10 PM
Every time I tried NTFS or HFS (journaled or not) I got permission problems or just plain wouldn't write problems (writing from a Mac with Leopard installed). Formatted the Pogo drives as FAT and zero issues after that. Never tried EXT.
August 8, 2009 11:55 AM
Seems to be some controversy about the ability to access various format types from various operating system types. I guess I need to do some more reading.
However, I did read the following post that seems to suggest a lot of flexibility.
http://www.pogoplugged.com/forum/thread/11705/Filesystems/
August 8, 2009 3:59 PM
NTFS with a Mac worked just fine for me, no hacks, extra config or anything, I just plugged it in and it worked. Sounds like I'm not having the same luck as others going the other way (Using HFS+ with Windows) Prior to reading this thread, I didn't even know that was possible so I'll send a note into customer service and see what i find out.
August 10, 2009 9:05 AM
Well, all the talk made me try again. Took my FAT formatted drive, transferred data off and formatted HFS+. Hooked to Pogoplug and all OK UNTIL I unplugged and plugged back in a few minutes later (moving around some cables, etc). Now I got the "drive in read only" mode and told to reconnect to my Mac to free up. Pain in the azz. Back to FAT format, no more problems.
August 10, 2009 11:20 AM
question for you guys with hfs+ problems: do you always "eject" the drive from your pogoplug via the web application BEFORE yanking the drive out of the pogoplug? because it sounds like the hfs+ drive isn't being ejecting before unplugging, which will cause it to be in a "dirty" state when you plug it back into the pogoplug.
August 10, 2009 9:04 PM
I always eject it before I unplug it from the mac and it doesn't work when I plug it into the pogoplug. Then I eject it from the pogoplug and plug it back into the mac and it works.
August 10, 2009 9:41 PM
I always just unplug the wire. I make sure it is a safe amount of time after I have been writing to the drive and there should be no activity. This should be all that is required. If the device requires a silly step of going to a website before I can rearrange cables, I will stick with FAT. We have a Popcorn Hour media streamer connected to the TV and since Pogoplug cannot allow smb in we have to move the wire from the Pogo to the PH to watch a movie. My wife is not about to navigate a website to watch a movie. I thought HFS was supposed to be a more advanced file system. Yet it is so fickle with drive connections where FAT takes it in stride. I have found I get as good or better write speeds with FAT (10-10.5 MB/s writing large files and about half that for many small files) compared with HFS (9 MB/s large files, 1-2 MB/s many small files). That plus the seemingly more robust FAT handling of wire removal makes me recommend FAT over HFS (or NTFS). ONLY drawback is the 4GB file limit. If you don't care about that, stick with FAT.
August 11, 2009 11:22 AM
on any platform whether mac/pc/pogoplug/etc, the only way to ensure all changes have been safely synced to your drive is to eject before yanking the drive. even if the drive isn't showing activity, yanking the drive always leaves it in a "dirty" state if it hasn't been safely ejected. every operating system maintains a cache of a drive in memory for quicker access, and ejecting tells the operating system to sync all changes and purge any state. the reason mac doesn't complain about dirty drives is because it silently fixes any errors when you plug it back in, whereas the pogoplug requires you use the mac to fix the inconsistencies. any way you look at it, you *always* run the risk of losing data or corrupting your drive if you don't eject before yanking a drive, whether on a mac/pc/pogoplug/etc. in the future we may add automatic recovery to dirty hfs+ drives, but currently you must use the mac to fix it.
john: try waiting 5 seconds after ejecting from the mac before yanking the drive. some drives actually take a few seconds to finish cleaning up even if the operating system already told you the drive was ejected. i also recommend running the mac disk verification tool on your drive in case there are any other errors.
November 2, 2011 1:40 PM
For clarity, I assume we are referring to FAT32 above?
Also, I assume FAT32 has the 4GB limit, as does FAT16?
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