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454SS

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Is there a way to access my pogo plug just over my local lan without internet connection?

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May 21, 2009 10:02 PM

I have not tried doing that. Have you actually tried it and it didn't work?

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May 21, 2009 10:22 PM

I tried it. It seems that you have to have an internet connection to mount the drive. I can not mount the drive without an internet connection, but after I mount the drive I can still access it even after disconnecting the internet. I seem to remember reading a thread about this before this site was up and running. Not sure about windows. I'm on a mac.

May 22, 2009 8:26 AM

The pogoplug require Internet access for the authentication. You don't log into it locally, you use their app or the web interface. That's why you need the connection. Once you're in and accessing it from your local network, then the Internet connection isn't needed. However, if you make any changes to the drive from another interface, you may have to refresh the pogoplug, which will require an Internet connection again.

Joe

May 22, 2009 8:51 AM

I would really like to know if you are connecting locally though. To me it seems its routed out to the internet then back to my lan which drastically reduces speeds. Unless the pogoplug is just that slow ..... ?

May 22, 2009 8:54 AM

454SS said:

I would really like to know if you are connecting locally though. To me it seems its routed out to the internet then back to my lan which drastically reduces speeds. Unless the pogoplug is just that slow ..... ?


You're definitely connected locally. Ever try doing a large file transfer? It's MUCH faster than being outside the house. Like I said, I believe it's just the authentication and maybe the file listing that's done over the Internet.

Joe

May 22, 2009 11:41 AM

It's definitely local - your Pogoplug has an internet IP address and a local home one. Naturally, your router will route traffic locally.

May 22, 2009 12:32 PM

Not convinced , if it uses a VPN tunnel to connect it will be connecting VIA your external IP not your local IP.

May 22, 2009 1:29 PM

if the central service can figure out you are on the same subnet as your pogoplug, it will tell the client application to talk to the pogoplug directly via its local ip address. otherwise it will use the tunnel via the central service.

May 22, 2009 2:06 PM

454SS said:

Not convinced , if it uses a VPN tunnel to connect it will be connecting VIA your external IP not your local IP.


Really, do you think we're making this up? :) If you have another system in your home, try copying a file to/from it. Then do the same with the pogoplug. It'll be fast. If you do the same from outside your house, it'll be quite slow, depending on your home's Internet connection.

Joe

May 25, 2009 3:38 PM

Quake97 said:

454SS said:

Not convinced , if it uses a VPN tunnel to connect it will be connecting VIA your external IP not your local IP.


Really, do you think we're making this up? :) If you have another system in your home, try copying a file to/from it. Then do the same with the pogoplug. It'll be fast. If you do the same from outside your house, it'll be quite slow, depending on your home's Internet connection.

Joe


I can vouch for this as well. I coped a 7 gig disk image via lan in about 10 minutes the other day, via internet I did the same thing from work and it took a little more than double (but still quite usable!)

May 29, 2009 10:34 AM

You can access the contents of your drive by ssh'ing into it.

Find the ip address of your pogoplug (e.g. 192.168.0.104)

1) ssh root@192.168.0.104 (can probably use putty on windows)

2) Enter 'ceadmin' as password

3) cd /tmp/.cemnt/mnt_sda1/ <---- If you are using a hub then the directory mnt_sda1 will probably correspond to the device id (I don't know as I haven't tested it. So, I.e., mnt_sda1 would be mnt_sda2 for second device)

4) Now you have access to all your stuff locally.

You could put this in a script to do this ssh into it automatically if you feel like it.

- N-man

November 2, 2009 4:20 PM

Does this mean that you only need the IP Address to log into a Pogoplug? All have rout access with Password of "ceadmin"? Say it isn't so! That's horrible.

November 2, 2009 8:40 PM updated: November 2, 2009 8:56 PM

You can change the root password using the "passwd" command without affecting the Pogoplug software. You should also know which ports are open on your router, Shields Up from grc.com is good for that and then know how to close the ones you don't want open. Your router manual should help with that.

May 1, 2010 4:03 PM

well, since most Pogoplug's are behind a router, Shields Up will not be very useful. It would be better to use a Penetration Tool like NMAP to see what ports are open.

P.S. Since most folks are behind a router, you will be safe from outside attacks unless you explicitly open your SSH port in your router. In any event, it would be a good idea to change the default password using the PogoPlug web interface (click on Security) or just turn off SSH access (again using the Pogoplug web interface).

May 1, 2010 11:14 PM

I thought Shields UP indicates what ports on your computer are visible from outside your network.  However, I'm not sure it indicates whether it's your router or software firewall that is blocking the traffic.

May 2, 2010 9:19 AM

Cuyler -- Your right. Shields Up just lets you know what ports ON YOUR COMPUTER are open to the internet. For that to happen, the port must be open on the router and on the computer. If Shields UP reports the port closed or stealthed then either your router or your software firewall (or both) is doing that.

But think about it. Your Pogoplug is really a computer or mini server. Shields UP will NOT tell you what ports on the PogoPlug are open. You need to use a tool like NMAP to do that. I have found that appliance devices like POGOPLUG have open ports. they rely on you using the firewall built into EVERY router to protect you from OUTSIDE attacks from the internet. But these routers do NOT protect you from INSIDE attacks on the LAN. And if you have connected the POGOPLUG to a hotel LAN, the hotel's router will not protect you from any inside attacks from other hotel guests. That is why it is a good idea to turn off SSH or at least make sure you have a VERY strong password.

January 16, 2011 3:33 PM

I think something is wrong with my setup. It is extremely slow despite me being on the same network. It's not even fast enough to stream an MP3. From another thread it seems like it might think I'm on a remote network and be routing everything through the Cloud Engines server. Is there a way I can check if that's what's happening?

January 24, 2011 1:08 AM updated: January 24, 2011 9:59 PM

@Alex S. I have the same problem but maybe worse. I am trying to simply delete files from my pogoplug (about 15GB) and it has been "Preparing to delete" and "Discovering" files for over 9 hours now? Is the pogoplug really that slow?

UPDATE: I tried everything I could think of to speed things along but nothing seemed to work until I reformated my drives to ext2 format. They were originally NTFS. My connection and uploads is so much faster; keeping my fingers crossed it stays that way. :)

February 27, 2011 6:35 PM

mihalko said: @Alex S. I have the same problem but maybe worse. I am trying to simply delete files from my pogoplug (about 15GB) and it has been "Preparing to delete" and "Discovering" files for over 9 hours now? Is the pogoplug really that slow? UPDATE: I tried everything I could think of to speed things along but nothing seemed to work until I reformated my drives to ext2 format. They were originally NTFS. My connection and uploads is so much faster; keeping my fingers crossed it stays that way. :)

I have the same problem a month later.  Does the ext2 format you used holding?  All my communications with the PP (well really DockStar) seems to go via the internet.  Kinda sux.  Wonder if there is a way I can disconnect the disk & use it locally?  Anyone know?

February 27, 2011 8:12 PM

Mine eventually started working better, it's still pretty slow over wifi though. It's about fast enough to watch movies, but for transferring lots of files I've started using an ethernet cable, and the speed seems pretty good then. My big problem now is that when accessing over the internet, speeds are limited to about 30kb/s, which I'm pretty sure is a lot slower than I would get if it was just an FTP. I've been meaning to try OpenPogo or something and running an FTP directly, but haven't got round to that yet. Does anyone else find they get slower than expected speeds when accessing over the internet? Does running an FTP, rather than routing everything through pogoplug.com, help?

February 27, 2011 10:44 PM

OpenPogo is beyond officially dead. Please don't.

PlugApps, different story.

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